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What is the late news re: some sort of R.R> transportation. for tallyhassee and the Panhandle. Much in news about happenings on the east coast and to Orlando but nothing for Tallahasse.

  • 06 Dec 2009 7:21 PM
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    What is happening  Re: Rail service from  Jacksonville thru  the Panhandle.  Much news about the East Coast and Orlando but we still seem to be lost in Tallahassee.  What can we do about it?
  • 23 Dec 2009 11:57 AM
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    Nothing much at all happening about Jacksonville, West.  There is a ugly rumour going around that a trial service is in the works, but I have not idea if this is true or not.

    What I do know is that George Bollinger, also a FCRP member has been urging Mica's office to reinstate the train as a no-frills, coach train with food service, on a trial basis, while issuing a 180 day notice of cessation at the same time.  I have cautioned him on this, but in his opinion, the honesty of the law outweighs restoration of the train.

    The 180 day notice was not given in the spring of 2006, and yes, this was not legal, and not honest, but now it would be suicide to do.  Amtrak would restore service with whatever junk they have, not market the service, and then 180 days later crow about it not being used.  If it is ever restored, it must be full service, reliable, and have good connections at NewOrleans with trains going west and east.

    My advice, don't hold your breath
  • 23 Dec 2009 10:27 PM
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    I agree with Jerry Sullivan; that is a suicidal strategy.  What FCRP or some other group with appropriate clout should do is sue Amtrak for reinstatement of FULL, ADEQUATE service BECAUSE proper notice of cessation of operations was never provided.  A no-frills operation is not going to cut it.
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  • 18 Jan 2010 11:40 AM
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    It was determined some years back by a lawyer that handles NRHS affairs that the only organization that could sue Amtrak, which would have to be done in a Federal Court, would be the Attorney General of the US.  No citizen group has "standing" in the court.

    Jerry Sullivan
  • 03 Jul 2010 4:16 PM
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    anonymous wrote:What is happening  Re: Rail service from  Jacksonville thru  the Panhandle.  Much news about the East Coast and Orlando but we still seem to be lost in Tallahassee.  What can we do about it?

  • 10 Aug 2010 11:58 AM
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    What can we do about it.  As a first step vote John Mica out of office because he is the political roadblock.  The other roadblock is Amtrak itself, who claimed (at least a local manager told me this) that the Sunset was "too much trouble".  The second step then is keep writing your so called elected representatives about the issue - who you elect, but are paid by the airlines, big oil, and the highway interests to keep Amtrak barely alive.
  • 08 Apr 2011 2:59 AM
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    The Sunset Limited route between New Orleans and Jacksonville was a victim of political posturing by former President Bush in 2005. On the day following election day that year, the president had hopes of capturing a victory in Virginia or New Jersey in either of the gubernatorial elections, but it didn't happen. Amtrak CEO David Gunn, was subsequently fired that day. Gunn had previously had Amtrak post the customary 180-day notice when the Three Rivers was discontinued earlier that year. With Gunn dismissed, the Bush administration probably found it politically expediant to fire him to circumvent the 180-day notice for that segment to be discontinued. Also, the downtown Mobile Amtrak station has been demolished and the land where it once stood is for sale. Everything else in downtown Mobile was rebuilt from the ground up,with funding from FEMA, except the Amtrak station. Why not? 
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